ext_14227 ([identity profile] agelade.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] caranfindel 2014-01-24 11:18 pm (UTC)

Hey, that is a /really/ good point about Dean giving the "poison" speech to maybe the only person in the world who's lost almost everything Dean has and then some. I hadn't thought about that. I have been thinking instead about how that "I'm poison" functions as an excuse for Dean's behavior -- I don't have to apologize, Sam, I'm POISON, I can't help it. Blame it on the poison okay? Not my fault.

As for the "yes means yes" thing -- Yeah I'm guilty of that. I kinda assumed that when planning out my season nine and completely blanked on the whole Jimmy had to say yes again thing. After that episode though, I have to decide whether I'm going to try to explain it away, or just go ahead with my faulty assumption. Bleh.

That's also an excellent question about Gadreel's obsession with staying in Sam when he had a willing vessel waiting. Sam (and Dean) are excellent vessels, to be sure. I'm not sure if his original vessel is his true vessel (tm) or not, but if it isn't, then he'll start to disintegrate pretty soon. Sam and Dean can handle archangels without (apparently) becoming braindead, so I'm sure they can withstand regular angels without falling apart like Nick did. If Gad can't get a True Vessel to consent, maybe Sam is a good second choice?

Another idea I've seen floated around is that Gadreel is playing Metatron and is planning hijinks with Lucifer somehow, and he might once again let Luci into the garden (so to speak). He might have thought he could pull the Dean trick again to get Sam to say yes. (But then, Lucifer could have done that himself...) Maybe there's something in Lucifer's vessel that can get him out of the Cage?

I just don't know. (And I'm really anti-endverse, so I try not to think about it, despite what you might read in Lustra.)

I hope your wishes come true though, man. (Of course, now I've jinxed it...)

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