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caranfindel ([personal profile] caranfindel) wrote2017-03-04 09:28 am

Episode poll 12.14: "The Raid"


[Poll #2064088]

No spoilers in the comments, please!

ETA... Y'all, I'm sorry I didn't close an italics tag in the poll and now all your comments look like you're a lot more enthused than you actually are.

[identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com 2017-03-06 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Was it you I was talking to about the scene where he was working out and how I thought that was a nod back to The Third Man and a shorthand way of saying Sam was losing his soul in that place?

I don't think so. I LOVE THIS IDEA.

though I'm not suggesting he thought of it this way consciously, I think the division between Mary and Dean over BMOL presented him with an opportunity to 'get Mom's attention' by 'picking her side'.

Hmmm, very interesting.

Possibly interesting addendum: at the end of Criss Angel, when Sam goes to meet Ruby, he tells her "I'm in." Exact same words he said to Daniels. Hmmm. *strokes chin*

ALSO VERY INTERESTING! And I believe his state of mind then was "this is a bad thing but I have to do it in order to achieve the good thing," which makes a lot of sense in context.
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[personal profile] fanspired 2017-03-07 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I think z_publicizes is right and this is a belly-of-the-beast deal. I think that, beause the BMOL are human, Sam doesn't recognize that he's making another devil deal, but that's what he's doing.