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caranfindel ([personal profile] caranfindel) wrote2017-05-01 10:17 am

Episode Poll 12.19: 'The Future'


[Poll #2067150]

Remember, no spoilers for future episodes, please!

[identity profile] z-publicizes.livejournal.com 2017-05-02 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm torn between Dean killing Ketch because Ketch has been set up as Dean's dark mirror and characters usually kill their dark mirrors, or Mary kills Ketch because she's been set up as the one possible chink in his armor. Or maybe they do it together, and it's the mother/son bonding activity that finally spackles the cracks in their relationship.

[identity profile] madebyme-x.livejournal.com 2017-05-02 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes, it could certainly be Dean that kills Ketch. But I feel like Show has been leading to Mary making a sacrifice for her children, as a true sign of her love; they keep telling us she's a hunter and a mother, but for me, we're seeing more hunter Mary, than Mother Mary, and maybe this will be the final way to prove she can be both.

Saying that, I've been here before and have been wrong, so maybe he won't die at all, but he'll turn and kill all of BMOL!!!! ;)

[identity profile] z-publicizes.livejournal.com 2017-05-03 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I could see that happening--if Ketch could be convinced that the BMoL's leadership have been compromised, he might decide it's his duty to take them out so as to serve the mission/organization itself. A 'loyalty to the state before the government' kind of thing. That'd be an interesting turn.

[identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com 2017-05-03 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
But is Ketch actually loyal to anyone?

[identity profile] z-publicizes.livejournal.com 2017-05-03 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe not to people, but to the institution that gives him a sense of order and purpose? Like, obviously he's in it for the sheer sadistic pleasure, but I don't think we've seen enough of him to say if he's also a true believer in...something or other. In his scenes with Mary, he seems to have a lot of passion and pride when it comes to his work. But that could be more about the means than the ends--he's just really, really into murder.

[identity profile] madebyme-x.livejournal.com 2017-05-03 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you've convinced me!!! Or maybe he really will kill Mary, they'll be a battle, but maybe he gets the upper hand, and she'll die trying to protect her family. And maybe then Dean will kill him, or he'll escape and go a bit mad and he'll be set up for next years big bad...so many possibilities!!!