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caranfindel ([personal profile] caranfindel) wrote2018-11-19 01:06 pm

Episode poll 14.06: “Optimism”


[Poll #2087093]

Remember, no spoilers in the comments, please!

ETA... I can’t believe I forgot to list Jack as someone who might have given Sam the fidget spinner, which is really stupid since that’s my theory!!! Ugh. Blame the cold I’m coming down with.

[identity profile] amberdreams.livejournal.com 2018-11-19 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
i know a lot of people didn't like Harper, but I thought she was a fun villain. I liked her matter of fact approach to being evil and her logic was hilariously warped.

[identity profile] amypond45.livejournal.com 2018-11-19 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked Harper. She was a delightfully twisted subversion of the ditzy-blonde damsel-in-distress stereotype, and I can't help hoping we see her again. Also, her evil necromancer plays like a dark comment on Sam's and Dean's repeated willingness to do whatever they need to do to keep the other one alive. I enjoyed the whole Dean/Jack storyline, right up to the moment when Jack collapses and Dean obviously wishes Sam was there.

I wasn't crazy about the Sam/Charlie story. I know Sam's still feeling guilty about other-Charlie's death, but this isn't her. I liked her backstory because I never liked Charlie turning into a hunter in the first place, and I like the idea of her falling in love with a baker in Chicago instead. I just kept thinking, if I was her, the first thing I would do is to find out if that alternate version of Cara is alive. I wouldn't be hanging around in a pickup truck (even with Sam Winchester! Not if I thought I could see the love of my life again!)

[identity profile] percysowner.livejournal.com 2018-11-20 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
The only reason I think she doesn't do that is because she's fully aware that she ISN'T their Charlie, so the Cara here isn't her Cara. It would hurt more to find her and realize they don't work together or to try and make this Cara into her Cara.

[identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com 2018-11-20 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see both of these things happening. I can see her wanting to meet the other Cara and see if the spark is there, and I can see her refusing, because she’s so (rightly) adamant that she is not That Charlie. And I can see her wanting to see Other Cara’s face just once, though that would be so painful.

[identity profile] amypond45.livejournal.com 2018-11-21 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Right? Like maybe hiding out across the street, waiting for Cara to come out, then following her to see if she does things the same way..,

Gee, I guess I sound like a creepy stalker! Maybe Charlie is more rational than I am!

[identity profile] amypond45.livejournal.com 2018-11-21 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
No, I know. It isn’t rational, but I’d still do it if I were Charlie. I guess she’s tougher and harder-assed than I am!

[identity profile] percysowner.livejournal.com 2018-11-20 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I kind of think Jack gave Sam the Fidget spinner, because he's been on a trip with Uncle Cas and he really wanted to get Chief and/or his Dad something to show he was thinking of him.

I'm not too worried that Jack will die, because he is popular and for the show to continue they need to have more of an ensemble and being a cute, cinnamon bun is a good choice for new regular character. OTOH, you can't be a REAL Winchester without dying at least once, so he could die and then come back. You know, like this is his initiation into the clan. John started the tradition when he died and Mary brought him back and now it's just one of those family rituals.

[identity profile] z-publicizes.livejournal.com 2018-11-21 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I think Jack's going to die but just, like, for an episode and a half. It's the family business.

[identity profile] madebyme-x.livejournal.com 2018-11-28 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
I assumed the fidget spinner was just in the car, and I assumed Charlie and Sam 'borrowed' it.

Fun poll, for a fun episode (although that fly mask was terrible - they could have just shown us glimpses instead of the whole thing! But maybe they did it on purpose, like it was supposed to be absolutely terrible...)

[identity profile] septembers-coda.livejournal.com 2018-11-30 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I was somewhat surprised to find I loved this episode! It was creative and had great new fun characters and great characterization of the ones we already know. I loved Harper and the whole setup, and it had both humor and angst (I'm very interested in Jack's fate). Easily my favorite of this season and most of last. Even the kitchy low-budget aspects were well-done. I'm proud of Speight!

The only question I had/thing I thought was dumb that you didn't mention was Sam and Charlie saying they were going to get creative, and they... killed the mosca by stabbing and shooting it. Stabbing and shooting something to kill it is the exact opposite of creative. :-)

[identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com 2018-11-30 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think just killing it the way you’d kill anything else, instead of following some bizarre rules, was creative!