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caranfindel ([personal profile] caranfindel) wrote2019-04-22 01:05 pm

Episode poll 14.19: “Jack in the Box”


[Poll #2092183]

Remember, no spoilers in the comments please, and that includes episode titles and casting information. Thank you!

[identity profile] amypond45.livejournal.com 2019-04-22 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I felt so angry and shocked when I first watched this, and just as angry (if less shocked) upon rewatch. Of course Dean's in pain and I cried when he cried. And I can understand how angry he is with himself as well as with Jack over what happened to Mary. I can see why he might be so upset that he would do something this drastic while telling himself and Sam that they were keeping Jack safe (from hurting people) by temporarily locking him in the box until they figured out a way to get his soul back. But forever? Buried alive forever??? Dean might be willing to sacrifice himself that way to save the world, but it's just not okay for him and Sam to do that to somebody they love. The fact that Jack got out is beside the point. The Winchesters never should have done that in the first place.

[identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com 2019-04-23 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, they shouldn't have, but I can see how they got there. Dean was angry and panicky, and Sam doesn't trust himself to make any decisions, given what happened to the AU hunters, and the fact that he blames himself for Jack being in their lives in the first place. (Even though, as I said, things would have been so much worse if he hadn't welcomed Jack.)

[identity profile] amypond45.livejournal.com 2019-04-23 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you that things would have been worse if they hadn’t welcomed Jack in the first place. I’m still hoping enough of the Winchesters’ influence rubbed off on Jack that he realizes he needs to think harder about his WWWD mantra and stop killing people. But he’s not himself right now. He doesn’t have his soul, and I keep thinking about how the Winchesters give each other the “get out of jail free card” when one of them is possessed or under the influence of the Mark of Cain. It feels hypocritical not to apply that here.