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caranfindel ([personal profile] caranfindel) wrote2019-04-22 01:05 pm

Episode poll 14.19: “Jack in the Box”


[Poll #2092183]

Remember, no spoilers in the comments please, and that includes episode titles and casting information. Thank you!
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[personal profile] fanspired 2019-04-24 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed, but my point wasn't about Dean's character motivation. I've already said that I think the writers have made that believable to the best of their ability. I'm talking about the show as a fictional construct in which Jack has always been, and still is being, framed and played as a child, with Sam and Dean having been framed as his parents. And I'm saying that to now have them actually use their parental status as a tool to trick Jack into the box is a horrible premise to ask the audience to accept. Apologies if I'm not making myself clear.

[identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com 2019-04-24 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m just saying that the character’s motivation changed, but the writers didn’t bother to walk us through that. And yet, Dean has done some pretty awful things to Sam, who he “parented” even more than he did Jack, in the guise of saving him from himself and/or saving the world. So this capability is nothing new.
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[personal profile] fanspired 2019-04-25 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, but back in the day the show had writers who could create an absorbing story that drew you in and made you believe you were watching real people in terrible situations making terrible choices. Nowadays, alas, I look at the screen and all I see is characters in bad plot scenarios and the clumsy writing process that put them there :(