I don't know exactly what the rules are, but *technically*, Donna wasn't *questioning* the prisoner, she was just talking to him--well, taunting him, maybe threatening him a little bit. But she wasn't actually asking any questions, just...giving him the opportunity to share what he knew, after he'd asked for a lawyer.
No show is ever completely without flaws, but I really enjoyed this one--and it was the first in a long time that actually had me scared, at points.
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Haaaah yeah that's pretty much my take on this part (the question of whether they got Kaia killed gets really complicated given that she was going to the Bad Place long before they met her, and we don't know if it could've actually killed her or only hurt her? But either way, while they have a share of responsibility, they're not entirely the ones who brought her into this. Which is the issue most of the time either of the boys are guilting about getting someone killed for bringing them into the life, like, it's not like monsters only target humans in the know? Ignorance isn't protection.)(then again I don't think Kaia is actually dead anyway, so....)
I was kind of assuming with the monster auction that some of these monsters don't need much human flesh, like, a nibble a year will tide them over and keep their coats shiny and whatever. The numbers Clegg was describing still don't compute, though, unless there are a lot more of these auctions happening, and one would really assume they'd have come up before in that case?
I enjoyed the episode, even if it did pose a lot of unanswered questions, and even if I don't like the idea of monsters living among us. It's not like the Winchesters haven't encountered these kinds of monsters before (the gods in A Supernatural Christmas come immediately to mind) even though Clegg makes it seem like they only hunt the stupidest, least domesticated monsters. Oh well. Sam looked so pretty strapped to that table, I almost forgave the show for doing that to him (again). And Dean really listening to him, obviously sympathizing and offering support (and pancakes) is totally my jam, so I'm a happy camper. I still can't believe they haven't called Cas. Once. Weird.
I really enjoyed this episode, it was seriously creepy at times, plus we got to see a lot of Sam and Dean. In coats!
I loved this about Doug 2.0 - "I'm all in favor of it because I'm dying for her to hook up with Dean" - as I'd love that to happen, too, there's definitely chemisry there, and not just a shared love of guns 'n' donuts. In my happy version of SPN I have Sam hooking up with Jody and Dean with Donna, awww!
I loved this episode! Sam was breaking my heart. All his little expressions of fear and hopelessness...
I definitely figured the whole point of the human auction was way less about food and way more about sadism. Like, how many humans want to watch a cow get butchered if all they want is a hamburger? I figure it's more about monsters wanting to watch the kinds of kills their instincts want, but that they're too cautious to commit. The entire setup was about spectacle, not efficiency, and that made a lot of sense to me.
And why did they report her car being found, or claim someone reported it? How did that benefit their scheme? I assumed a non-monster person reported her car being found abandoned and Clegg came by to cover their tracks.
I don't think Kaia's death is a yes or no question. She wouldn't have died if they hadn't forced her to help them and by they I mean Dean pointing a gun at her and Sam not stopping him, so mostly Dean, who isn't feeling all that guilty. OTOH, I like Dean trying to take care of Sam AND there is still a Kaia shaped being in this world, so it's not so bad. I do understand that Sam feels guilty about practically everything, so it tracks whether he should feel guilty or not.
I'm slightly baffled as to why Sam included being depressed about Cas in his list of things that can't work out. As far as THEY know Cas came back from the dead and is out and about looking for Jack. I don't know why they haven't contacted him to tell him about Kaia and Jack jumping universes, but they don't know that Cas is in trouble and kidnapped with Lucifer. From Sam's POV Cas can wander into the bunker whenever he wants. I don't think it's that they tried to reach him and couldn't because 1) They never said they tried and 2) I'm sure Asmodeus would answer Cas's phone while imitating Cas's voice, just in case Sam and Dean would give him a clue as to where Jack is.
I think perhaps I can believe that Dean carries vampire cure herbs in that bag because, after all, apparently that poison that kills you for a little bit in there too. So a vampire cure? Sure, I buy that ;)
Have you seen the SM post about the Book Slapper? Whose job it should be to stand on set of movies and every time the director veers off canon, hit them upside the head with the book? I volunteer to be the SPN version. Every time we violate known canon, I will happily beat people with the box set of the appropriate season(s). Preferably filled with concrete chunks or lead bars.
I was a little surprised that Doug was the one who got turned, because from the intro and first 5 minutes, I expected it to be Wendy. Of course that makes it super convenient that Donna doesn't have Doug to keep her in Minnesota now. I mean, it's not like she has a job, a house, friends, whatever else, going on back in Hibbing. Obviously, if she and Dougie Bear end things, she'll just shuffle off to Sioux Falls.
I had assumed the lady trucker was the one who called in the anonymous tip on the car. Did I miss something and they said it was someone else?
Is the Supernatural Series by Carver Edlund on the summer reading list for the FBI? Was Carver Edlund under federal surveillance? Is that why the books stopped?
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No show is ever completely without flaws, but I really enjoyed this one--and it was the first in a long time that actually had me scared, at points.
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Haaaah yeah that's pretty much my take on this part (the question of whether they got Kaia killed gets really complicated given that she was going to the Bad Place long before they met her, and we don't know if it could've actually killed her or only hurt her? But either way, while they have a share of responsibility, they're not entirely the ones who brought her into this. Which is the issue most of the time either of the boys are guilting about getting someone killed for bringing them into the life, like, it's not like monsters only target humans in the know? Ignorance isn't protection.)(then again I don't think Kaia is actually dead anyway, so....)
I was kind of assuming with the monster auction that some of these monsters don't need much human flesh, like, a nibble a year will tide them over and keep their coats shiny and whatever. The numbers Clegg was describing still don't compute, though, unless there are a lot more of these auctions happening, and one would really assume they'd have come up before in that case?
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I loved this about Doug 2.0 - "I'm all in favor of it because I'm dying for her to hook up with Dean" - as I'd love that to happen, too, there's definitely chemisry there, and not just a shared love of guns 'n' donuts. In my happy version of SPN I have Sam hooking up with Jody and Dean with Donna, awww!
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I definitely figured the whole point of the human auction was way less about food and way more about sadism. Like, how many humans want to watch a cow get butchered if all they want is a hamburger? I figure it's more about monsters wanting to watch the kinds of kills their instincts want, but that they're too cautious to commit. The entire setup was about spectacle, not efficiency, and that made a lot of sense to me.
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I assumed a non-monster person reported her car being found abandoned and Clegg came by to cover their tracks.
I don't think Kaia's death is a yes or no question. She wouldn't have died if they hadn't forced her to help them and by they I mean Dean pointing a gun at her and Sam not stopping him, so mostly Dean, who isn't feeling all that guilty. OTOH, I like Dean trying to take care of Sam AND there is still a Kaia shaped being in this world, so it's not so bad. I do understand that Sam feels guilty about practically everything, so it tracks whether he should feel guilty or not.
I'm slightly baffled as to why Sam included being depressed about Cas in his list of things that can't work out. As far as THEY know Cas came back from the dead and is out and about looking for Jack. I don't know why they haven't contacted him to tell him about Kaia and Jack jumping universes, but they don't know that Cas is in trouble and kidnapped with Lucifer. From Sam's POV Cas can wander into the bunker whenever he wants. I don't think it's that they tried to reach him and couldn't because 1) They never said they tried and 2) I'm sure Asmodeus would answer Cas's phone while imitating Cas's voice, just in case Sam and Dean would give him a clue as to where Jack is.
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I was a little surprised that Doug was the one who got turned, because from the intro and first 5 minutes, I expected it to be Wendy. Of course that makes it super convenient that Donna doesn't have Doug to keep her in Minnesota now. I mean, it's not like she has a job, a house, friends, whatever else, going on back in Hibbing. Obviously, if she and Dougie Bear end things, she'll just shuffle off to Sioux Falls.
I had assumed the lady trucker was the one who called in the anonymous tip on the car. Did I miss something and they said it was someone else?
Is the Supernatural Series by Carver Edlund on the summer reading list for the FBI? Was Carver Edlund under federal surveillance? Is that why the books stopped?
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