"New title card! I don't really like it. The blue flames are cool but the wings are too cartoony."
I HATE THOSE FREAKING WINGS. I've spent a fair amount of time with birds so I'm super picky about wings, feathers, etc. And these are just not good art, either. They're just Not Good Enough.
And ALL of this: "I have so many feelings about this scene. First, so much love for Jared, because he shows Sam's terror of this guy SO WELL. And, like 13.01, that conflict between his fear and his need to be nice to this person, to care for him." I feel like J2 have worked fucking WONDERS with what they've been given and especially Jared, since apparently not one of these writers has ever experienced severe PTSD or knows anyone with it. Or they do and they just do not get that a freaking lifetime's worth of violence, near death and actual death experiences, torture in and out of hell/the Cage, constant losses of family and friends at the hands of cruel villains, addiction (demon blood, the Mark of Cain and the First Blade), losing each other over and over again... The writers just do not get that this shit has to SHOW UP in the characters- and J2 manage to show us anyway. Seriously. Those two are just so good. Thank heavens because otherwise I would have bailed on this show a while ago now. :/
Sam shouting "Enough!" at the demons was fabulous. Made me SO happy. And then, you bring this up:
"Well. What do we think about this? I mean, on the one hand, it's awesome. It's Sam Fucking Winchester taking charge. On the other hand, the only possible way it makes sense is if the demons have a reason to fear him. And that would have to be because they see him as Boy!King Sam, not as Sam Winchester the hunter, right? There's no reason for them to fear him that much as a human hunter. But there's no way he's getting his powers back, so why is Show teasing us like this?"
Are they teasing us or do they just not know? Sadly, I'd have to bet on the latter but the former would be pretty interesting. At this point in this life I think Sam could handle having Powers and even if he were King of Hell he'd be a super good one. Not as in better than Crowley (because he had his charms, that's for sure) but better in that no innocent souls would get sent down there accidentally (or for story's sake, I would hope!) or on purpose and the punishment of bad souls would be just... Or maybe I'm just dreaming... I don't know. So hard to tell anymore...
"In the kitchen, Mary and Bobby drink beer and make cute googly eyes at each other. He calls her "Sunshine." They're precious."
No, they're not, or they're precious in the icky sense. For me, this is the classic Hot Girl and "Ugly" Guy thing. I adore Bobby, both versions, with a depth that is only surpassed for a few other characters. He can do better than Mary (not that he doesn't deserve a hottie but that Hunter that all the Winchesters and Bobby slept with who was in that episode with all the ghosts stuck in the minion? SHE was great and would have been perfect and am I bitter about the show giving us that great Hunter and immediately taking her away? Why, YES, I am. Darn them anyway!) and Mary... well, I don't know why I don't like her character but I don't. She seems flat and not... well, just not right somehow.
Finally,
"And there were things I adored, which is basically ALL THINGS SAM. Chief Sam, patient-but-angry Sam, lord-of-all-demons Sam, terrified-but-caring Sam, hair-in-his-face Sam, BEARDY SAM, ALL THE SAM, ALL THE TIME.
But I miss Dean."
Yep. All of this. I do miss Dean and while Jensen is doing a fine job and I hope he gets to have a little more time with this character so he can really "get" it, I do miss Dean dreadfully. But all the Sam? Especially empowered, truthful, determined Sam? That is AWESOME. The beard is a big bonus for me, too. LOVE that beard, especially with the long hair....
Anyway. Thanks for writing all this down! It was very helpful to read through it tonight, having just caught both episodes back to back. Now I can go back to Tumblr and my email list without worrying about spoilers. Sorry if all the quotes of your writing were annoying. :)
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Date: 2018-10-21 01:24 am (UTC)I HATE THOSE FREAKING WINGS. I've spent a fair amount of time with birds so I'm super picky about wings, feathers, etc. And these are just not good art, either. They're just Not Good Enough.
And ALL of this: "I have so many feelings about this scene. First, so much love for Jared, because he shows Sam's terror of this guy SO WELL. And, like 13.01, that conflict between his fear and his need to be nice to this person, to care for him." I feel like J2 have worked fucking WONDERS with what they've been given and especially Jared, since apparently not one of these writers has ever experienced severe PTSD or knows anyone with it. Or they do and they just do not get that a freaking lifetime's worth of violence, near death and actual death experiences, torture in and out of hell/the Cage, constant losses of family and friends at the hands of cruel villains, addiction (demon blood, the Mark of Cain and the First Blade), losing each other over and over again... The writers just do not get that this shit has to SHOW UP in the characters- and J2 manage to show us anyway. Seriously. Those two are just so good. Thank heavens because otherwise I would have bailed on this show a while ago now. :/
Sam shouting "Enough!" at the demons was fabulous. Made me SO happy. And then, you bring this up:
"Well. What do we think about this? I mean, on the one hand, it's awesome. It's Sam Fucking Winchester taking charge. On the other hand, the only possible way it makes sense is if the demons have a reason to fear him. And that would have to be because they see him as Boy!King Sam, not as Sam Winchester the hunter, right? There's no reason for them to fear him that much as a human hunter. But there's no way he's getting his powers back, so why is Show teasing us like this?"
Are they teasing us or do they just not know? Sadly, I'd have to bet on the latter but the former would be pretty interesting. At this point in this life I think Sam could handle having Powers and even if he were King of Hell he'd be a super good one. Not as in better than Crowley (because he had his charms, that's for sure) but better in that no innocent souls would get sent down there accidentally (or for story's sake, I would hope!) or on purpose and the punishment of bad souls would be just... Or maybe I'm just dreaming... I don't know. So hard to tell anymore...
"In the kitchen, Mary and Bobby drink beer and make cute googly eyes at each other. He calls her "Sunshine." They're precious."
No, they're not, or they're precious in the icky sense. For me, this is the classic Hot Girl and "Ugly" Guy thing. I adore Bobby, both versions, with a depth that is only surpassed for a few other characters. He can do better than Mary (not that he doesn't deserve a hottie but that Hunter that all the Winchesters and Bobby slept with who was in that episode with all the ghosts stuck in the minion? SHE was great and would have been perfect and am I bitter about the show giving us that great Hunter and immediately taking her away? Why, YES, I am. Darn them anyway!) and Mary... well, I don't know why I don't like her character but I don't. She seems flat and not... well, just not right somehow.
Finally,
"And there were things I adored, which is basically ALL THINGS SAM. Chief Sam, patient-but-angry Sam, lord-of-all-demons Sam, terrified-but-caring Sam, hair-in-his-face Sam, BEARDY SAM, ALL THE SAM, ALL THE TIME.
But I miss Dean."
Yep. All of this. I do miss Dean and while Jensen is doing a fine job and I hope he gets to have a little more time with this character so he can really "get" it, I do miss Dean dreadfully. But all the Sam? Especially empowered, truthful, determined Sam? That is AWESOME. The beard is a big bonus for me, too. LOVE that beard, especially with the long hair....
Anyway. Thanks for writing all this down! It was very helpful to read through it tonight, having just caught both episodes back to back. Now I can go back to Tumblr and my email list without worrying about spoilers. Sorry if all the quotes of your writing were annoying. :)