Probably. People on staff, were very into ‘Africa’ by Toto. It was running joke. Mary Manchin, who left the show, was big on it. You might like to look at the map she made of where the boys have gone over the years. https://twitter.com/nnja11/status/895740847970369536
But seriously, let's unpack this. Cas doesn't want Jack to die. And yet Cas didn't enlist as an ally the only other person who would try as hard as he would to stop that from happening. He's had all this time to call Sam, to text Sam, and instead he's just asking Dean if Dean told him? Why?
Well CERTAIN fans will read something into this that I don’t think is there. I can see Cas feeling like Dean has to know and not wanting to be in the area when Sam finds out that Dean is willing to let Jack die, because he doesn’t want to deal with the fallout. Plus, Dean is still viewed by Cas as the “leader” of their little family, so too Dean he goes.
1993. Wait a minute. It just occurred to me that 1993 isn't 25 years ago. That would be 1995. (Someone please check my math. It's not a strong point.) So did Sam and Dean actually see Caitlin and Travis two years after all of this happened? Or are we playing fast and loose with the timeline? Or coutning the two missing years somehow?
This writer might actually be accounting for the 2 years. She’s pretty good, I’ve like all of her episodes, so I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt.
{Sidebar: Didn't Sam leave Sully to go on a hunt? Wouldn't that have been before this?}
Yeah, but I could see John telling Sam he would help with a hunt then making him sit in the car.
the one about Dean and Michael was completely wrong. {Sidebar: Or was it? Discuss.}
I’m honestly not sure. I can see that Biille may be manipulative enough to know that they would never put Dean in the Moloch box, but that they had to THINK he would go into it to get another ending, so she had to say that the box was the only way. BUT, they have made a big deal of the Winchesters being a wild card, so maybe they defy the books. This then brings up the question, did Original Recipe Death KNOW Dean would kill him instead of Sam and show up anyway, because a book said that was the best outcome?
So why would the replacement stone have any power?
Maybe it’s like an electric wire, the stone completes the circuit? Hey, I working to hand wave this thing because I like the writer.
{Sidebar: Cell phones weren't really a thing back in 1993, so what number did he give her? And how did it still catch up with him 25 years later?}
One of Bobby’s FBI numbers, which they kept and gave to Jody and maybe Donna so when people check on if they are legit FBI they get confirmation? The phones on this show are weird man. In Phantom Traveler, Dean takes a call on one of John's old cell phones and I think that happens in season 2 as well (could be wrong about that) but all I could think at the time was "the battery stayed charged for 2 years?"
I liked the episode, although the actors for Sam and Dean weren't that strong. I read an interview where they admitted that all the other Young Sams and Deans had aged out of even being considered for this episode, so they made do.
I did think during the conversation at the end that Dean doesn't want to be on the hamster wheel with no choice, but he has zero problem telling SAM that he has no choices and keeping him on a hamster wheel run by Dean.
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Date: 2020-10-24 06:05 pm (UTC)Probably. People on staff, were very into ‘Africa’ by Toto. It was running joke. Mary Manchin, who left the show, was big on it. You might like to look at the map she made of where the boys have gone over the years. https://twitter.com/nnja11/status/895740847970369536
But seriously, let's unpack this. Cas doesn't want Jack to die. And yet Cas didn't enlist as an ally the only other person who would try as hard as he would to stop that from happening. He's had all this time to call Sam, to text Sam, and instead he's just asking Dean if Dean told him? Why?
Well CERTAIN fans will read something into this that I don’t think is there. I can see Cas feeling like Dean has to know and not wanting to be in the area when Sam finds out that Dean is willing to let Jack die, because he doesn’t want to deal with the fallout. Plus, Dean is still viewed by Cas as the “leader” of their little family, so too Dean he goes.
1993. Wait a minute. It just occurred to me that 1993 isn't 25 years ago. That would be 1995. (Someone please check my math. It's not a strong point.) So did Sam and Dean actually see Caitlin and Travis two years after all of this happened? Or are we playing fast and loose with the timeline? Or coutning the two missing years somehow?
This writer might actually be accounting for the 2 years. She’s pretty good, I’ve like all of her episodes, so I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt.
{Sidebar: Didn't Sam leave Sully to go on a hunt? Wouldn't that have been before this?}
Yeah, but I could see John telling Sam he would help with a hunt then making him sit in the car.
the one about Dean and Michael was completely wrong. {Sidebar: Or was it? Discuss.}
I’m honestly not sure. I can see that Biille may be manipulative enough to know that they would never put Dean in the Moloch box, but that they had to THINK he would go into it to get another ending, so she had to say that the box was the only way. BUT, they have made a big deal of the Winchesters being a wild card, so maybe they defy the books. This then brings up the question, did Original Recipe Death KNOW Dean would kill him instead of Sam and show up anyway, because a book said that was the best outcome?
So why would the replacement stone have any power?
Maybe it’s like an electric wire, the stone completes the circuit? Hey, I working to hand wave this thing because I like the writer.
{Sidebar: Cell phones weren't really a thing back in 1993, so what number did he give her? And how did it still catch up with him 25 years later?}
One of Bobby’s FBI numbers, which they kept and gave to Jody and maybe Donna so when people check on if they are legit FBI they get confirmation? The phones on this show are weird man. In Phantom Traveler, Dean takes a call on one of John's old cell phones and I think that happens in season 2 as well (could be wrong about that) but all I could think at the time was "the battery stayed charged for 2 years?"
I liked the episode, although the actors for Sam and Dean weren't that strong. I read an interview where they admitted that all the other Young Sams and Deans had aged out of even being considered for this episode, so they made do.
I did think during the conversation at the end that Dean doesn't want to be on the hamster wheel with no choice, but he has zero problem telling SAM that he has no choices and keeping him on a hamster wheel run by Dean.