After watching that, I knew I wouldn't be able to take the real scene seriously when it aired and I was right, dang it.
Totally worth it.
> They don't need an excuse to be in the same room. Just put them in there.
In Robbie's defence, I think he was deliberately double underlining the point because the two teams occupying the same space/time is going to become such an important and pivotal theme for the episode.
> Sam and Dean don't quite understand how the earlier victims escaped if the soul eater was only trapped, not killed. And honestly, neither do I
OK, I figured it out straight away cos, like Robbie, I'm a smartarse that way :P Bobby and Rufus' sigil only trapped the soul-eater, so it and its victims (including Bobby) remained trapped in the house, and the timeless nest until Sam and Dean's spell killed the soul eater and released its victims (including Bobby) to their original times. So Bobby and Rufus did the original groundwork that eventually enabled Sam and Dean to save everyone (including Bobby and the original victims). [Insert here scene with Ninth Doctor yelling "just this once, everybody lives!" and keep fingers crossed this is foreshadowing for the end of the season, and wonders if one reason we've had to wait nearly a month for this ep is that they needed to get confirmation of season 12 before they ran with such a positive message].
> And we're getting a lot of references to the Winchesters getting old this season and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Ah, but this ep is referencing Lethal Weapon and the running gag of "I'm too old for this shit" so I'm gonna assume that we're supposed to remember that in the final Lethal Weapon film they changed it to an emphatic "we are NOT too old for this shit!" :)))
> If Bobby saw Dean in the nest, and he knows it exists outside of space and time, then he knows Dean must have been trapped after he was, right? Which means Dean probably survives the apocalypse? I'd think that would make him hopeful, not sad. But I'm probably missing something important.
No, I think it's Bobby who's missing something important. Vis, the whole timeless thing. I think he's afraid he's seeing precognisitc visions of the future and that Sam and Dean are going to die in the apocalypse. I don't think the possibility that he sees Dean because Dean's actually going to visit the house in the future occurs to him.
Btw, in that gif, is it just me, or does Jensen look like he's wincing because he knows Jared's heavy hand is about to whump down on his head?
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Date: 2016-03-25 04:30 am (UTC)After watching that, I knew I wouldn't be able to take the real scene seriously when it aired and I was right, dang it.
Totally worth it.
> They don't need an excuse to be in the same room. Just put them in there.
In Robbie's defence, I think he was deliberately double underlining the point because the two teams occupying the same space/time is going to become such an important and pivotal theme for the episode.
> Sam and Dean don't quite understand how the earlier victims escaped if the soul eater was only trapped, not killed. And honestly, neither do I
OK, I figured it out straight away cos, like Robbie, I'm a smartarse that way :P Bobby and Rufus' sigil only trapped the soul-eater, so it and its victims (including Bobby) remained trapped in the house, and the timeless nest until Sam and Dean's spell killed the soul eater and released its victims (including Bobby) to their original times. So Bobby and Rufus did the original groundwork that eventually enabled Sam and Dean to save everyone (including Bobby and the original victims). [Insert here scene with Ninth Doctor yelling "just this once, everybody lives!" and keep fingers crossed this is foreshadowing for the end of the season, and wonders if one reason we've had to wait nearly a month for this ep is that they needed to get confirmation of season 12 before they ran with such a positive message].
> And we're getting a lot of references to the Winchesters getting old this season and I'm not sure how I feel about it.
Ah, but this ep is referencing Lethal Weapon and the running gag of "I'm too old for this shit" so I'm gonna assume that we're supposed to remember that in the final Lethal Weapon film they changed it to an emphatic "we are NOT too old for this shit!" :)))
> If Bobby saw Dean in the nest, and he knows it exists outside of space and time, then he knows Dean must have been trapped after he was, right? Which means Dean probably survives the apocalypse? I'd think that would make him hopeful, not sad. But I'm probably missing something important.
No, I think it's Bobby who's missing something important. Vis, the whole timeless thing. I think he's afraid he's seeing precognisitc visions of the future and that Sam and Dean are going to die in the apocalypse. I don't think the possibility that he sees Dean because Dean's actually going to visit the house in the future occurs to him.
Btw, in that gif, is it just me, or does Jensen look like he's wincing because he knows Jared's heavy hand is about to whump down on his head?