Episode Poll 12.15: "Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell"

[caranfindel]

[Poll #2064588]

As always, no spoilers in the comments, please and thank you!

Comments

[jj1564.livejournal.com]

Love all your LoTR references, made me chuckle like a happy Hobbit having his second breakfast!

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

Show makes it impossible not to!

[manzanita-crow.livejournal.com]

I would work with the BMoL. But only so I could 'keep my friends close and my enemies closer'

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

Ah, good point.

[kribban.livejournal.com]

I didn't know the ship name was Squirrely! That's actually awesome ^^

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

I don't know if it's widely used, but I saw it on Tumblr and I'm sticking with it cause, like you said, it's awesome.

[percysowner.livejournal.com]

I think the big bad might be "The Old Men" of the BMOL which I see as slightly different from the BMOL in general. I'm also keenly aware that we have another Prince of Hell named Asmodeus who suddenly got a name and a title, which I think means he has to show up eventually.

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

Ah! Two very good answers!

[z-publicizes.livejournal.com]

My baseless spec is that the "old men" aren't Men of Letters in any proper sense, but are usurpers who took over behind the scenes, and now they're using the BMoL as a front for some sinister operation. Maybe their extermination program is about clearing away competition/potential resistance so they can remake the world to their specifications. Maybe they're all power-mad rogues, like Cuthbert Sinclair.

[ameliacareful.livejournal.com]

My spec is that The Old Men aren't even human.

[z-publicizes.livejournal.com]

Could be. The Old Men does sound like a fitting moniker for Lovecraftian eldritch horrors.

[were-lemur.livejournal.com]

That might even make the BMOL interesting...

[percysowner.livejournal.com]

Although a fascinating idea, we already tried Lovecraftian evil in season 7 with the Leviathans, and it did not go well. I've heard that part of the issue was that they didn't have the budget to make Sera Gamble's ideas come to life and I doubt the budget has gotten bigger since then. I'm not opposed to eldritch horrors, just concerned they can't be pulled off properly.

[wetsammy.livejournal.com]

This is exactly what I was thinking. This would be such a great twist.

[flawedteacup.livejournal.com]

I was going to put Gwen hugging Crowley on my list of things I hated in the comments, but you got to it in the questions. (I REALLY hate that. Second only to Charlie telling Dean thanks for saving the world and telling Sam sorry about his bad luck with ladies.)

I think Mick is Frodo because he's British and lives in a hole in the ground and thinks that Sam should be like Sam in LOTR and heroically do whatever Mick says because Mick is a hero and the Winchesters are grunts. Sam knows irony.

[toratio.livejournal.com]

Off topic, but that's one of the reasons it actually took me a long time to warm up to Charlie. Seriously, who saved the fucking world?

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

Ha! I like your Frodo reasoning! And yes, that Gwen hug discrepancy was bad enough that it could have been in more than one question.

[were-lemur.livejournal.com]

HEADCANON ACCEPTED!

[anactoria.livejournal.com]

I did not love Dean apparently having no sense of personal hygiene or cleanliness in general. Whatever happened to "I just cleaned in here?" *grumbles*

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

I guess one can assume Dean is more persnickety about his surroundings than his person, if one feels charitable.

[were-lemur.livejournal.com]

Same. He might get dirty on the job, but he's always seemed to be the "head straight for the nearest shower" one of the two.

[madebyme-x.livejournal.com]

I wondered that too?! Maybe he was trying to annoy Sam for fun? In my headcanon I see the library as more Sam's domain but the kitchen being more Dean's, so Dean was maybe doing it just to play games with his brother maybe?

[fanspired]

> Is it significant that the 'alpha hellhound' was killed a week after the alpha vampire?

Between that sort of thing, the return of Mary and the Colt and the encore appearances from a bunch fan favourites, don't you get the feeling they're gearing up for a series finale? o_O

[were-lemur.livejournal.com]

Sam is two Alphas for two episodes, both solo kills.

(Not that I mind Sam being a badass...)

[fanspired]

Like me some badass Sam :)))

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

Seems like I thought that last season...

[fanspired]

True. Seems like they've been gearing up for a series finale since season 7 : /

[z-publicizes.livejournal.com]

I've seen transfigured-humanoid Impala fancast as a few beautiful women (mostly Gina Torres) so now, yes, I am picturing Sam and the Impala up against the wall. And Dean's epic rending betrayal upon walking in on them. Or voyeuristic ecstacy, if you'd rather.

[fanspired]

Or both! They don't have to be mutually exclusive :D (You need to write this and link me. I love it!)

[gingersnap1224.livejournal.com]

OMG there's a candle that smells like Chris Evans!!! How did I not know that?

Oh, the glasses. As soon as I got a hint of a hell hound I started to squee over the return of the glasses. Who doesn't love hot 1950's pharmacist Sam?

As far as this season's big bad, it's all so confusing. There are way too many candidates.

[were-lemur.livejournal.com]

I was surprisingly upset that Ramsay got out and was hunted down essentially for nothing.

Hellhounds aren't "evil" in the way that most of the things the Winchesters hunt are. They've never been shown as having the capacity for moral agency. They're animals: big, scary, vicious, invisible animals, but still animals.

Honestly, this whole episode felt like "well, we need to move the Angel, Demon, and BMoL plots forward, and oh yeah, probably should have Sam and Dean do SOMETHING."

[xparrot.livejournal.com]

If Sam actually did imagine the Impala was a beautiful, beautiful woman, wouldn't he be more likely to slam her into a wall?

*snrrrk*

[cuddyclothes.livejournal.com]

Big Bad? Don't know, don't care--do we have any grenades?

And thank you for Gwen hugging Crowley! I thought I missed something. Enjoyable episode, but a tad too much fanservice (i.e. Cas holding the FBI card upside down).