Episode poll 13.22: "Exodus"

[caranfindel]

[Poll #2081360]

Remember, no spoilers in the comments, please!

Comments

[fanspired]

Yes, we play Monopoly but our version has London streets.

[jennytork.livejournal.com]

Which not many Americans are familiar with (I'm certainly not).

Would love to see your version of Park Place and Boardwalk!

[fanspired]

Looks exactly the same, only it's Park Lane and Mayfair.

What's really unlikely is that Ketch would remember the American street names instead of the English ones. Can't imagine he's spent his time in the US playing Monopoly! :D

[gidgetgal9.livejournal.com]

I am unspoiled and have no clue how it will all end but excited to find out. All I can say about this episode was it wasn't too bad for a BuckLemming and Sam needs to wear clingy sweatshirts more often. It actually defined his pecs not that I was staring too hard. LOL

[jj1564.livejournal.com]

Sam needs to wear clingy sweatshirts more often. It actually defined his pecs not that I was staring too hard.

SECONDED!

[percysowner.livejournal.com]

I think most of the people didn't tell Jack what Lucifer did because of stupid plot reasons. I think SAM didn't tell him because he's so traumatized by what happened to him that he can't talk about it, except possibly to people that actually have dealt with being tortured by Lucifer, i.e. Rowena.

I honestly don't know what I want for Mary. I don't hate the character and I like the actress. I want Sam and Dean to have a mother they can talk to occasionally, but the writers don't seem able to write for her. They don't want her to be on screen all the time, mostly because I doubt they want to pay for her to be a regular, so she can't be at the Bunker. Having her come and go just amps up the Mary hate in the fandom, because she's not being a "good" mother. Sending her back to the AU or killing her seem like the only options, and I don't like either of them, so I'm completely baffled on what to do about Mary.

[amypond45.livejournal.com]

I'm not spoiled, so I have no freakin' idea what's about to happen. Maybe the AU has their own Death? That would be cool!

I liked the hug, even if it was a little too little. I appreciate that Dean seemed to be acknowledging the trauma of losing Sam (again!) and deferred to Sam's about what to do with Lucifer, which seems only fair (at least that's the way it looked to me!)

I find Mary complicated and infuriating, and the drama she engenders when she's on the screen with the boys is always interesting and emotional. In some ways I want her to stay around, so she can drop in on them once in a while and cause more emotional partings and opportunities for Dean to express his never-ending fear of abandonment because all that drama and angst is a huge part of why I love this show. Having her around gives a triangle to the Winchester family drama, the way John did at the beginning, and I love that (I'm a masochist, I guess!) Also, it's been interesting to debunk her earlier myth (she's not at all like Dean after all!)

I Lucifer shows his true colors soon so there can be no more ambiguity for Jack about the fact that Lucifer is The Devil. Satan. Supreme Evil. Then I want Jack to face that Lucifer is part of him, but he gets to choose his destiny, just as Sam has done. That's the only way the Jack story will work for me!

[percysowner.livejournal.com]

As to Lucifer saying Kelly took his virginity negating the idea that he raped Sam, I think that's a non-starter argument. I have lived through the "purity" movement of several years ago, where girls remained "technical virgins" by defining virginity in a very narrow way. Basically anything other than penis-in-vagina sexual contact didn't count as losing your virginity. Anything else, and you remained pure and a virgin for your eventual husband. This included all other forms of contact that most people consider to be sex, in some form. So, if Lucifer never had intercourse with a woman before Kelly (no I can't explain the groupies, maybe Lucifer liked to "watch") he could define any other sexual things he did to Sam, without Sam's consent, as not being "real" sex, especially if "real sex" involves intercourse with a woman, who had a living body.

People have defined actions as not being "real" whatever before and will do it again in order to keep a vision of themselves that they want to maintain. (See, "I'm right to Life, but support the death penalty.)

[jj1564.livejournal.com]

I had two main things I disliked in this episode. The first was AU Cas and let's not even go there except to wail WHY?? The second is that no one went to sit with or speak to Jack at the end when he was clearly upset/troubled. I think either Sam or mother-most-foul Mary should've gone to be with him.

[sailorhathor.livejournal.com]

>> Why did Dean try to get Mary to give up on AU Land with a speech about never giving up?

LOL!!

I really want Mary to spend some quality time with her boys. I hope she gets hurt in the season finale so she has a reason to slow down for half a season while Sam and Dean help her recover. When they can't afford to have her on the show, she's just "in her room" "resting" or "taking a nap" or out doing "physical therapy" with another hunter/Castiel/Jack/whichever actor they can't afford to pay that week.

[casey679.livejournal.com]

This episode hurt. And not in a good way. So much unnecessary stupid, and the one excuse for Lucifer's evil that could have worked - the Mark - is the one thing no one brings up.