On further review... more thoughts about 11.20

[caranfindel]

So I'm rewatching, as one does...



When Metatron reads the new ending of Chuck's story, he looks crushed. Look at this sad little face. And as we see this, Chuck is singing "one of these days, I'll be gone." So, is Chuck planning to sacrifice himself in order to put Amara away? (Theory 1)


Damn you, Curtis Armstrong. How dare you make me have feelings for this awful, awful character.

And speaking of sad, Chuck seems very sad when he tells Metatron that Lucifer wasn't his favorite, but also that he wasn't a villain. I feel like this has to be important. Are they setting us up to accept Lucifer as a hero, who will sacrifice himself (probably being tossed into the Empty) to put Amara away? (Theory 2) Maybe with Sam's help, as per my speculation earlier? (Theory 3)

More sadness? How about Sam telling Dean "We're not gonna make it; we were never gonna make it." Did the fog actually implant negative thoughts into its victim's brains, or did it only bring out the worst thoughts they already came up with on their own? Because if it's B, and I think it is, it means poor Sam is always carrying those thoughts with him, and tamping them down.

Let's end on a happy note. Sam tells Dean to "quit ironing my shirts with beer." That means Dean irons Sam's shirts on a regular basis. I love this so much, I'm just gonna roll around in it for a while.

(And, a reminder, no spoilers in the comments please!)

Comments

[dreamsofspike.livejournal.com]

I'm mulling and processing and about to write up my own theories about this episode, but they do coincide with yours a bit. :)

I DO think that God is going to sacrifice himself to save his creation - give them one last shot. And I think that, in keeping with the theme this show has always held central of the love between two siblings, I think he's going to do it, ironically, by CHOOSING Amara. Before, he locked her away to protect his creation, and she's clearly been really hurt by that, feels that rejection deeply. So I think in the end, he is going to (metaphorically at least, maybe literally) take her hand and walk with her, WILLINGLY, into the Empty (which should pretty much just feel like home for her, after all; it's pretty much what she wants the whole WORLD to be).

So, he'll be choosing his sister AND choosing his creation, at the same time - choosing to go with her in order to give them their best chance.

As for Lucifer - the sorrow on Chuck's face when he insisted, quietly, with a sense of regret, that Lucifer was NOT a villain - it made me think about the backstory we've gotten on the Darkness, the Mark, all of it. And here's how it seems to me that it all played out.

At one point, Lucifer WAS more or less God's "favorite", or at least most trusted - because when they locked Amara away for the protection of God's creation, Lucifer was the one entrusted with the key (the Mark). Presumably Lucifer was NOT corrupt at that time. But as time passed, he began to show troubling signs. He became angry, bitter, jealous, bent on the destruction of humanity - and God realized...

Amara had more or less infected him.

His favored son was now the threat to God's creation - and it was HIS OWN FAULT. This wasn't something Lucifer CHOSE, it was something that was DONE TO HIM. By his OWN FATHER.

So just like he locked Amara away to protect creation, God locked Lucifer away too. It wasn't about punishment or done out of wrath. It was because now, Lucifer was the threat to creation and it had to be done.

But he still regrets that he had to do it, to this day - and he does not see Lucifer as a villain. He sees him as a victim, HIS OWN victim, even if it was by accident. :(

And I think that God will take Lucifer out once and for all before the end of this season, especially if he's about to leave the scene for good. He won't leave a potential threat with Lucifer's level of power around to hurt his creation after he's gone. But I think he'd be heartbroken about it, not want to do it, but do it anyway.

I have this mental image of Chuck practically holding up a broken, tortured Lucifer (Pellegrino, has to be; I LOVE Misha's version, but for this it'd have to be the original) - and this moment of reconciliation and warmth and love and regret and redemption - in the moment before Chuck slides an archangel blade up under his son's ribs and ends him.

And I don't think Lucifer would look betrayed or angry or sad - not mostly. Mostly, I think he'd be relieved. Might even say "Thank you." Because his suffering is finally over.

Sooooo yeah... I have a lot of thoughts about the questions you've raised about this episode... and this is more or less how I'd like to see it go down. :P

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

OH MY GOD HOW DARE YOU INFILTRATE MY COMMENTS WITH SUCH SADNESS.

(But it's kind of awesome and now I want it.)