Episode poll 11.20: "Don't Call Me Shurley"

[caranfindel]

[Poll #2044327]

As always, no spoilers in the comments, please!

Comments

[cuddyclothes.livejournal.com]

As much as I loved the Chuck/Metratron scenes, I'm not at all happy with God being brought in.
a) Chuck being God and being "Method" in all of his scenes, including the ones in S4 WHEN CHUCK HADN'T EVEN MET THE WINCHESTERS
b) invalidating seasons 4-11: earlier today I saw "Jus In Bello" and got pissed off all over again. I HATE TO THINK CHUCK IS FUCKING WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON. DO NOT RUIN THIS FOR ME.
c) it's just too over the top
d) what the hell are they going to do in Season 12? Bring in the Justice League?

[ameliacareful.livejournal.com]

So they can't keep God around. If God is being and Amara is nothingness, maybe there needs to be a balance?

Or maybe they're like matter and antimatter and when they meet they'll cancel each other out? Not they that really makes sense but it's Supernatural.

[percysowner.livejournal.com]

I still hate Chuck being God. I'm terribly afraid that God, having saved Cas all these times before will announce that 1) He needs Lucifer to stop Amara 2) He doesn't want Cas to be possessed by Lucifer 3) Since The Darkness being released is ALL SAM'S FAULT then 4) He will ask Sam to accept Lucifer again so 5) Sam will end up in The Empty with God, Amara and Lucifer all of whom don't like him and somehow it will all become about how HARD it is for Dean to know that Sam is lost to him (until Sam is resurrected, which will happen). I'm not spoiled, but it's Sam's turn to die and it fits the pattern of previous seasons, IMHO.

I really hated God blaming Sam for the release of Amara instead of letting Metatron's statement that Sam and Dean released her stand. I'm not really even that happy that the Samulet is back, or at least not the way it came back. I wanted Dean to say something about regretting throwing it out and apologizing to Sam for that, but that's off the table now.

The acting was great. The dialog was great. I hated the basic premise for so many reasons.

[amypond45.livejournal.com]

I LOVE the whole idea that Sam had that amulet all the time, who am I kidding???? The first time I watched I sort of ignored the Metatron scenes because I still HATE him so much -- he KILLED Dean! But I don't mind the Chuck-revealed-as-God storyline at all. I guess I don't mind God popping in, since he's already been established as a character, albeit an absent one.

Oh and I have to add this silly idea I had because it struck me on second viewing when Chuck scolded Metatron for burning "Tall Tales" and then said that Lucifer wasn't his favorite (am I remembering that right?) because the first thing I thought of was Gabriel! Bring him back! Then we can have Rob and Rich together in a scene and my need for shameless meta at every opportunity will be satisfied yet again.

[anactoria.livejournal.com]

I'm in the 'loved some, hated some' camp again this week. While I really enjoyed some of the Chuck and Metatron scenes, I still wish the whole Chuck-is-God thing had been left in fanon where it belongs. I was quite fond of harried prophet!Chuck, but God!Chuck is despicable.

[fanspired]

Ironing (a 2fer): Sam insists they take it in turns to do the ironing; Dean irons Sam's shirts with beer in the hope that Sam will eventually give up on insisting Dean takes his turn.

[flawedteacup.livejournal.com]

Has anyone read "Wouldn't It Be Nice"? There's got to be more to this comparison than Keith vs. Brian or just the titles. I read "Life," and it definitely laid everything out, good and bad.

[safiyabat.livejournal.com]

I just about lost my mind when Chuck blamed the Darkness' release on Sam and Sam alone. Kind of like so many people blamed Lucifer's release on Sam and Sam alone, when then (as now) there were multiple factors leading up to that one act to include a lack of useful information on Sam's part.

Also, it reminded me that Chuck helped to goad Sam toward Lucifer's release. ("Does it all rest on my shoulders?" "It does look like the story's heading that way...")

And then finally claiming that Lucifer isn't a villain? No. Sorry. With everything that Lucifer did to Sam alone, which isn't even in dispute by anyone in universe, Lucifer is a villain.

I considered skipping this one. I wish that I'd considered a little harder.

[casey679.livejournal.com]

The questions about the amulet (where has it been, where will it go [not ultimate destination/use but just where it will go]) were apparently answered by the actors at the Asylum convention that just happened. Happy to share what was tweeted if you are curious; it spoilers nothing as far as I know.

[ash48.livejournal.com]

I've spewed my dislike of this episode all over my journal so won't repeat here. What I have neglected to get excited about was SAM'S FACE! And worried Dean with his hands all over Sam.

The only thing that forgives this episode (for me) is it was Robbie's Swan Song and he wanted to say goodbye. I suppose I can't deny him that. Much.

[madebyme-x.livejournal.com]

I'm hopeful and reserving judgement for future episodes. I hope they give us an unexpected twist, but I suspect Chuck will not be staying around for long. I still think Amara is going to go something very bad to Chuck (The Empty?), and he won't be in the picture for long. But surprise me Show, give us all a wonderfully terrible and painful cliffhanger that we'll all hate but secretly love!!

[z-publicizes.livejournal.com]

Loved some, disliked some. I wasn't really feeling the Sam and Dean moments - they felt obligatory, and all the same emotional beats had been hit only a few episodes back, with better execution. The viral fog had great cinematography and CGI though, and I loved the unraveling duct-tape which felt sort of emblematic of Sam and Dean ''fixing-things" in general.

Alas, I greatly dislike amulet fixits and have since the first moment someone came up with the notion that Sam might have taken the amulet out of the trash.

The stuff I loved was God!Chuck and Metatron. I'd long ago accepted that Chuck being God was probably the authorial intent and might be made explicit text at some point, but I've never been too fond of it. But guy-who-plays-Chuck's acting and God being such a flawed, petty, miserable bastard (which, I never thought SPN God could be any other way, I was just pleased by the execution) who needs to be read by Metatron, of all people, sold me on it. At least for this episode, who knows how I'll feel by the end of the season.