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Date: 2019-04-22 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jj1564.livejournal.com
I am so conflicted about the whole Jack In the Box thing! Yes, Jack was manipiluated by Duma into doing horrific things, but he thought he was doing God's work and that Sam and Dean would be proud of him. Yet if he's that easily manipulated and capable of inflicting such horror, he shouldn't be out in the world. So I can understand them wanting to keep Jack locked away, but not in that awful box, and despite how he referred to Mary's death as 'the accident' I still think they could have reasoned with him and made him realise he's on the wrong path. I was pretty horrified that they manipulated Jack into agreeing to go into the box, his trust in them and desire to please were heartbreaking. However, I think Dean would've killed anyone else who showed so little remorse, and as he can't kill Jack, this was his solution; I also think that from Dean's POV, he built the box to bury himself alive to save the world, and he thinks this is therefore something Jack would agree too! But despite all this, I loved this episode for the scene with Dean crying. Oh boy, Jensen outdid himself with the sobbing, just perfect.

Date: 2019-04-23 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caranfindel.livejournal.com
I wonder if it would have gone differently if Jack hadn't been so smug when he showed up, if he hadn't called it "the accident," if he'd been as sorry as he was when he was talking to Hallucifer. But Sam was his best chance, and I think he lost Sam by being so cold instead of regretful. It made Sam think, even if for a moment, that he was too far gone - I mean, look how frightened he was when he reached out to touch his shoulder.

Date: 2019-04-23 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jj1564.livejournal.com
Jack did come across as smug and very unfeeling, which was just so sad. If he'd shown remorse, been a liittle scared or guilty, I'm sure they would've reacted differently.

Date: 2019-04-24 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] verucasalt123.livejournal.com
Right, but Jack doesn't have a soul. How could he feel guilty or regretful if he doesn't have a soul? What he did to Mary was an accident. He didn't kill her on purpose. He was making angels, he was like hey check out this good thing I'm doing. Heaven needs angels and I'm giving them some.

At the same time, the writers wanted him to be so eager to please the Winchesters, which also, why would he feel that way if he's soulless? Why does SPN always want to forget S6 ever happened?

Date: 2019-04-25 09:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jj1564.livejournal.com
This is where this episode was frustrating, because when Jack was alone he was obviously feeling remorse and/or guilt about 'the accident' and was afraid to face Sam and Dean, yet when he saw them, he showed no emotion at all. And yet he was so proud, telling them that he was making angels, so he still craves their affection, which as you said, he wouldn't care about if he was soulless! It could tie you in knots.

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