Initial reaction 11.20: We should probably talk

[caranfindel]

THEN: Chuck. Amara. Other things.

NOW: We open on Metatron digging through a dumpster, looking for something to eat. He's excited to find a half-eaten pastrami sandwich, but he ends up giving it to a hungry dog instead. And then he and the dog are zapped into a bar, where they're met by someone Metatron recognizes as Carver Edlund, but to us he's Chuck "Don't Call me Shurley" Shurley. Oh, and also, he's God.


World's Greatest Dad? DON'T THINK SO, CHUCKLES.

I'm not going to go into Chuck and Metatron's scenes. I liked them, but I don't feel the need to recap them in detail. Here are the highlights...


Setoski? I'm sure this is significant somehow. Someone please fill me in.

Chuck's been hiding in plain sight because he likes to watch (hmm) and because his creations disappointed him. He started a new series of books (called "Revolution;" little inside joke there for ya) and he's bisexual. He's writing an autobiography and wants Metatron to edit it. He has the Samulet, and it didn't burn in his presence earlier because he had turned it off. And he's kind of tired of everything now and ready to let Amara destroy it all. Metatron spends a lot of time talking him out of it. And Lucifer is neither his favorite, nor a bad guy (hmm again).


THE SAMULET!!!!!

Meanwhile, back at the bunker...

Dean is ironing a white dress shirt, sprinkling it with beer instead of water. Is Domestic!Dean really that inept, or is this deliberate?


Domestic!Dean makes my heart go pitter-patter.

Because when Sam comes in with a possible lead on Amara in a place called Hope Springs (because hope springs eternal, you know), he makes the obligatory reference to Cas, so we know they haven't forgotten him, and then gives Sam the beery shirt. So maybe the whole thing was a practical joke. I don't know. What I do know is Sam's "Dude, quit ironing my shirts with beer!" makes me so, so happy.


Who could say no to that face. And that lack of visible undershirt.

When the guys get to Hope Springs, they're told that a guy named Wes Cooper seemed perfectly happy until he declared his life loveless and meaningless and committed murder/suicide. Wes's autopsy pictures reveal a very familiar black vein-like pattern on his arms, and really, you'd think that would have been a big deal. You'd think this deputy would point that out first, instead of saying "his wife really did love him, I don't know why he'd say that, oh, and by the way, this is weird too." But she's a newlywed so maybe she's distracted with newlywed stuff. Sam asks if she's noticed anything like sulphur smells, power outages, or unexplained fog. She hasn't.

The deputy goes home to her new husband, and is coincidentally accosted by an unexplained fog. She calls it in to dispatch and collapses, as black veins travel up her arms, then stands up with an "I've got no soul" expression on her face.

The next morning, the Winchesters show up at the deputy's house. Sam's wearing the red and black shirt from Baby that I love. They've discovered that Deputy Harris shot her husband and then disappeared, after reporting the fog. They head back to the station so they can track her patrol car, and hear there's fog rolling in. Dean tells them to warn everyone to get inside and seal up their windows and doors. Sam tracks Deputy Harris and finds she's conveniently heading for the station. She has a message for Dean from Amara, but before she can give it to him, she aims her gun at Dean and is shot, not by Sam as I expected, but by the sheriff. As she dies, she gives Dean his message: "It will all be over soon. He's not going to save them. It's all going away. Forever. But not you, Dean." Dean seems surprised to hear this for some reason.


"Once again she's telling me I'm special. I wonder if it means something."


Then Sam calls his attention to some very photogenic fog rolling in from the very photogenic mountains.






SO MUCH PHOTOGENIC.

Let's hear it for some lovely cinematography!



I love this shot, and according to Rob Benedict's Twitter, the fog in the mountains is real. Isn't that beautiful?


In addition to the lovely mountains and fog, I just cannot deal with how pretty Sam is in this scene. And Dean too, but, you know. Saaaammm!



AND IT JUST KEEPS GETTING PHOTOGENICER.


The guys shoo everyone out of their cars and into the sheriff's office, and I'm sorry, I haven't forgotten that when the Darkness first emerged, Sam was safe in the Impala and the people in the hospital were infected. Maybe this fog is completely different, since it's white instead of black. I'm sure that's it.

Sam hears infected people outside, moaning and groaning like zombies and trying to break in. They lock the door and seal the windows and doors with duct tape, and Dean's angry duct-taping face is glorious.


Nothing is going to get through his fucking duct tape, so help me Chuck.

Unfortunately, the tape pulls away from an air vent, and the Darkness (um, the Whiteness?) makes its way into the building. Dean moves the other people into a different room and attempts to seal the area he and Sam are in, but of course it's too late, and Sam is overcome by the fog. He tries to warn Dean away, saying he's going to hurt him, but of course Dean doesn't listen.


I like the way Sam always raises a single finger first when he's trying to ward Dean off (see Reichenbach and Safe House for more examples)

Behind the not-sealed door, we can hear the people in the sheriff's office being turned by the fog. Sam collapses and chokes and Dean gets the pleading face and it looks like this is it, guys.


"No, man, it's episode 20. You're not gonna die in episode 20."

HOWEVER. While this is happening, Metatron is still working on Chuck, trying to get him to save his creation. And I don't care for the character, but damn, Curtis Armstrong does such a good job playing him. Metatron is actually the hero tonight, as Chuck sits in front of his computer and bangs out a few new pages of the Winchester gospels. Or his autobiography. I don't know.


And Dean is... checking for Sam's femoral pulse? I got nothing.


In the sheriff's office, Sam's pocket begins to glow and Dean pulls out the Samulet!



Bzuh???


When Chuck showed it to Metatron earlier, he alluded to a story about where it's been all this time, and I really hope the answer isn't "in Sam's pocket." And I don't think that's the case. I think Dean's face is more "holy crap, this just appeared here" and not "wait, you've had it all this time?" And Sam also seems surprised, not guilty. But I could be wrong. I often am.

The amulet glows, the fog clears, Sam returns to his awesome self, and the guys head outside to see that both Deputy Harris and her recently-murdered husband have come back to life. The previously infected people are getting to their feet, and helping them is. Oh. Chuck.



Sweet mother of Chuck.

He gives the boys a guilty smile and says "we should probably talk."

NO SHIT, CHUCK.

Questions raised...

If you're going to pay for a Rolling Stones song, couldn't it have been Paint it Black?

Chuck refers to his bar as "B.G.'s Canteen." He also refers to other bars called "The Bitter End" and "The Gaslight." Significance?

Setoski?

Did Sam have the amulet all this time?

I know you're dying to hear my opinion of this episode, and the truth is, I'm torn. On its own, I liked it. Chuck and Metatron were interesting. The boys were cute, and I always love them working together.

And yet. I've always disliked the concept of the Supernatural novels, and of Chuck being God. And having a deus ex machina ending to this season would be a huge disappointment. Especially if they decide God can lock up Amara on his own, even though he wasn't able to do it In The Beginning.

Also, I guess the Samulet is the Hand of God they'll use to defeat her? Which means it will be wielded by Dean? I can only blame myself for being surprised. All season, Dean has been saying that he can't fight Amara, that only Sam can defeat her. And I believed it. Even though he also spent big parts of the season saying that Sam wasn't having visions from anyone, and that Sam wasn't going back into the cage. So. My bad. But maybe I'm wrong? I want to be wrong. Please, Chuck, I want to be wrong.

(And I know the previews for next week's episode probably laid this out pretty well, so just sit there and laugh quietly at me until then, okay?)

What did you think? No spoilers in the comments, please!

Comments

[casey679.livejournal.com]

I really liked this episode.

I mean, I can't believe it, but they made me like Metatron. IS THIS REAL LIFE? Because up to this point, the only times I liked seeing Metratron were when Sam was shooting him and taking his grace, and when Cas was punching him. Repeatedly. Yet... he's the hero here, with a really great speech, and I can't hate him anymore, Chuckdammit.

The plague made the whole Darkness/Cas thing they've been getting at make more sense to me, at least. Cas gives up and lets Lucifer in because he's been infected by the Darkness from his fight with Amara. He's acting just like all the infected townsfolk, all of his worst fears and negativity hitting and crippling him. He didn't outright kill Sam and Dean, but letting Lucifer in kind of similar, and sitting and brooding locked down inside... very similar. (I'm also thinking that Dean's guilt over kicking Cas out of the bunker in Season 9 is why he's so absolutely obsessed with saving him now.)

And oh, Sam's Darkness-induced fears about Dean abandoning him for Amara... and Sam trying to save people even if it kills him... Dean dragging him out of harm's way... and Dean's absolute giving up when Sam is dying... fuck re-duct-taping the door and saving other people, what's the point? I'mma just gonna breathe in the smoke and die with him.

Personally, I'm pretty happy with the idea of Sam having had the amulet all this time. I never could see him leaving it in the trash can, if only because it was a reminder of how he'd failed Dean... and by that same token, I could totally see him NEVER showing it to Dean (especially at the end of Season 10) because of that same guilt. It works very for me in terms of Sam's thought process and behavior, given how hung up he was at the end of Season 8 at the thought of letting his brother down. I doubt he had it in his jacket the entire time, but who knows? At the very least I could see him carrying it about in Season 11 in hopes of finding God.

And OH MY GOD Chuck, Sam looked so idealistic and innocent this whole episode, and so abso-fucking-lutely pretty. Sometimes he seemed almost childlike with his wide eyes, just trying to help everyone.

Not sure why God called the place BG's Canteen... but a BGS (Bundesgrenschutz) Canteen was a West German canteen used in WWII... in-joke maybe?

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

I mean, I can't believe it, but they made me like Metatron. IS THIS REAL LIFE? Because up to this point, the only times I liked seeing Metratron were when Sam was shooting him and taking his grace, and when Cas was punching him. Repeatedly. Yet... he's the hero here, with a really great speech, and I can't hate him anymore, Chuckdammit.

I know, right?

The plague made the whole Darkness/Cas thing they've been getting at make more sense to me, at least. Cas gives up and lets Lucifer in because he's been infected by the Darkness from his fight with Amara. He's acting just like all the infected townsfolk, all of his worst fears and negativity hitting and crippling him.

Oh, wow, I never would have thought of that. Interesting point!!!

And oh, Sam's Darkness-induced fears about Dean abandoning him for Amara... and Sam trying to save people even if it kills him... Dean dragging him out of harm's way... and Dean's absolute giving up when Sam is dying... fuck re-duct-taping the door and saving other people, what's the point? I'mma just gonna breathe in the smoke and die with him.

All of this!

Personally, I'm pretty happy with the idea of Sam having had the amulet all this time.

My only issue with Sam holding onto the amulet is, what happened to it when he was in Hell? Did Dean hang onto all of Sam's clothes and duffles, and it was stashed in a pocket? Did he stick it in the Impala somewhere when Dean wasn't looking?

And OH MY GOD Chuck, Sam looked so idealistic and innocent this whole episode, and so abso-fucking-lutely pretty. Sometimes he seemed almost childlike with his wide eyes, just trying to help everyone.

OH YES.

[casey679.livejournal.com]

Considering he had his jacket on when he fell into Hell... maybe he had it the whole time. Cas didn't rebuild his body after the Cage - he pulled him out physically, right, leaving the soul behind? If his body came out intact despite everything that happened in the Cage, who's to say his clothes didn't, too? Since Chuck turned off the necklace, it might not have even blipped Michael and Lucifer's radar.

I have been thinking about things, and thinking I will be okay if it's Dean who stops the Darkness rather than Sam... after all, Sam stopped the Apocalypse, which so many folks on the show seem to forget Dean actually kicked off... so there's an okay parallel for me here if he does. So long as he's not missing at the end of the season. (One more search-for-Dean cliffhanger and I'mma gonna bash my head against a wall.) So Dean or Sam, okay. Just... just not Cas.

[littlemissnovel.livejournal.com]

I really loved this episode and can't believe this episode made me like Metatron.

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

Will wonders never cease?

[naanima.livejournal.com]

I'm a lurker, love your summaries. Need to talk about this ep, and you appear to be the only one whose view is in the middle as opposed to others (undying love or utter hatred).

I liked this ep. But didn't love it. Mostly there wasnt any surprises for me. Chuck is exactly what I have always thought SPN's God to be like.

I'm not sure how I feel about an actual deus ex machina end to this season. Except Sam and Dean can't win against Amara on their own without Chuck's intervention. The episode seem to imply that Chuck will be sacrificing himself to lock up Amara, which is the only deus ex machina I can accept because a Godless verse seem to fit Supernatural and its theme.

Except I want Sam involved in the equation. My worst fear is Lucifer in Cas saves the Day with God, I don't want that, I want Sam with God saving the day. I mean Sam is still technically made to hold an Archangel's grace. He is the man of faith, the guy who is a step away from completing the Trials. I want Sam to save the world with God's aid. Not God saving everybody while the boys get sidelined.

For the first time in several seasons I'm unsure how the Winchesters will be involved in saving the world. And I'm a bit anxious at the thought of them having too much divine intervention against a foe that is as powerful as God. I realise how conflicted I sound.

Thank you for writing the summaries.

Apologies for the spelling error. I'm typing this on my phone.

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

Welcome to the comment section! :-)

I'm not sure how I feel about an actual deus ex machina end to this season. Except Sam and Dean can't win against Amara on their own without Chuck's intervention. The episode seem to imply that Chuck will be sacrificing himself to lock up Amara, which is the only deus ex machina I can accept because a Godless verse seem to fit Supernatural and its theme.

Except I want Sam involved in the equation. My worst fear is Lucifer in Cas saves the Day with God, I don't want that, I want Sam with God saving the day. I mean Sam is still technically made to hold an Archangel's grace. He is the man of faith, the guy who is a step away from completing the Trials. I want Sam to save the world with God's aid. Not God saving everybody while the boys get sidelined.

I agree. I'd be okay with Chuck saving the world if he involves Sam. If he NEEDS Sam. Partly because it would be a nice parallel to S5, where Sam blamed himself for releasing Lucifer and took on the responsibility of putting him back in the cage. (Having them redo Sam's S5 story arc with Cas in the role of Sam bothers me. Having Sam do it again does not. Because SAM.) Partly because it's time for Sam to be the Big Damn Hero again - it would be the perfect ending to this season where he's been the hero of his own story so many times. And partly because I JUST LOVE SAM WINCHESTER, OKAY?

[crowroad3.livejournal.com]

The Bitter End and The Gaslight: folk scene, NYC, where God coulda heard "Fare Thee Well" played by say, Dave van Ronk, or Dylan. And maybe some Beat poets, heh. All the musical heritage maybe overshadowed Chuck/Rob/God singing a swan song...! Hard to resist a bitter end metaphor? ( :

Also recap/reaction is v. beautiful, as always <3.

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

The Bitter End and The Gaslight: folk scene, NYC, where God coulda heard "Fare Thee Well" played by say, Dave van Ronk, or Dylan. And maybe some Beat poets, heh. All the musical heritage maybe overshadowed Chuck/Rob/God singing a swan song...! Hard to resist a bitter end metaphor? ( :

See, I did wonder if the Bitter End was supposed to mean something!

Also recap/reaction is v. beautiful, as always <3.

aw, thanks. Anything with that many Winchester screencaps can only be beautiful. ;)

[gingersnap1224.livejournal.com]

"The Gaslight" and "The Bitter End" were coffee houses in New York where a bunch folk musicians like Bob Dylan and Peter, Paul and Mary played in the 60's.

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

"The Gaslight" and "The Bitter End" were coffee houses in New York where a bunch folk musicians like Bob Dylan and Peter, Paul and Mary played in the 60's.

I'm so grateful to have y'all out there as my human Google. ;-)

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

The Gaslight is especially of note if you have cross fandom interests in say, someone like Oscar Isaac, who starred in the movie "Inside Llewyn Davis" directed by the Coens, as a struggling folk singer.

I loved this ep so much. Ecstatic to see Chuck again. Metatron was even a tiny, tiny wee bit sympathetic....

I always loved the movie "the Fog." I'm really surprised Dean didn't make a reference to Adrienne Barbeau. :D

In my very humble opinion, Chuck and Amara need to reconcile. I'm a utopian, and a mystic, and I always want things like "God and his sister should embrace" and "darkness and light should mingle together" etc etc. If that happens my jaw will hit the floor but I will be very happy. :) I used to read "Saga of the Swamp Thing" by Alan Moore (this was like literally thirty years ago, OMG), and it was all about that kind of cosmic balance. So, yeah, that's what I'm always looking for. It makes for great, revolutionary psychedelic comic books, but maybe not such great serial tv. :)

Thanks so much for your great witty and insightful recaps. I haven't been around as much (RL is eating me alive) but I knew you'd have something here, and I really appreciate it. :D

[crowroad3.livejournal.com]

Coens: I was just thinking about that! Given how prominently "Fare Thee Well" was featured in the film, and the Llewyn resemblances sorta; folkscene!Chuck.

I've also been hoping they'd shed the dark/light binary somehow this season but as you say, maybe not likely. ( :

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

The Gaslight is especially of note if you have cross fandom interests in say, someone like Oscar Isaac, who starred in the movie "Inside Llewyn Davis" directed by the Coens, as a struggling folk singer.

Wait... Star Wars Oscar Isaac? Or am I remembering the wrong actor. Because I didn't see ILD but I remember the promos, and the guy in my head is different. (Yeah, I know, I could look it up. And I will.)

Metatron was even a tiny, tiny wee bit sympathetic....

My whole world-view is turned upside down now.

In my very humble opinion, Chuck and Amara need to reconcile. I'm a utopian, and a mystic, and I always want things like "God and his sister should embrace" and "darkness and light should mingle together" etc etc.

But how can you mingle Something and Nothingness? I don't see that coexisting peacefully the way dark and light can.

Thanks so much for your great witty and insightful recaps. I haven't been around as much (RL is eating me alive) but I knew you'd have something here, and I really appreciate it. :D

Thank you! This one was pretty rushed but I'm glad it was worth reading. Sorry about RL!

[fannishliss.livejournal.com]

Yes, that same Oscar Isaac. He is also, astonishingly, the same guy as the computer billionaire in Ex Machina, where he appears opposite the guy who plays Hux. Also, Kylo Ren has a bit part in ILD, which is very wack.

Re something and Nothingness:
Logically, Amara can't be truly "nothing" -- she has to be at least something or how would she have consciousness at all....
If you look at the universe you can envision Amara in a lot of different ways.
1. I see her as entropy, the state of rest that things eventually fall into, ie "the heat death of the universe"
2. I also see her as a the emptiness the universe is expanding into... but at the same time, the spaces between the subatomic particles.
3. I think there are some primordial ideas of something like Amara. Tiamat, the goddess of primeval chaos; or Kali, the goddess of destruction -- but Amara is something more primordial even than chaos or destruction. It's kind of interesting to look at Gaiman's Endless (Death, Destiny, Dream, Delirium, Desire, Destruction, Despair) and see how Amara is the resting point beyond any of those Endless.
4. There's kind of a taoist aspect to Amara's relationship to Chuck. Chuck is the restless creative force, teeming with multiplicity and abundance, whereas Amara is the end, the rest, the falling into oneness. Without going too much into the active/hot/masculine vs the cool/dark/feminine ........ Chuck's attempt to lock away Amara away is understandable, because she is the inevitable outcome.... as humans we don't really have to worry about the Sun eventually going dark, but it will, and unfortunately if you are God you do have to watch that.... supernovas and black holes are out there everywhere -- not too mention the so-called "dark matter" whatever it is that is somehow holding things together...

Yeah, so I think Amara is my all-time favorite Big Bad. Yay Amara!!!

[fireheart13.livejournal.com]

Great review! I mostly loved this ep, and if there are a couple of questions or potential issues, well, it was so yummy I am willing to wait/look past them LOL. I'm definitely in the OMG I ended up liking Metatron, and kudos to Curtis Armstrong's performance. The whole fog-town-sam and dean together in the locked foggy room facing death was just terrific :-D I don't think Sam could have had the amulet all that time, despite how I enjoy that in fic, but that Chuck had it and placed it there.

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

I'm definitely in the OMG I ended up liking Metatron, and kudos to Curtis Armstrong's performance.

He *had* to be pretty good to make me feel anything but disgust. Good on you, Curtis.

The whole fog-town-sam and dean together in the locked foggy room facing death was just terrific :-D

I know, right! The only bad thing about the Metatron/Chuck scenes is that they used up minutes that could have been spent in a duct-taped room with Sam and Dean.

I don't think Sam could have had the amulet all that time, despite how I enjoy that in fic, but that Chuck had it and placed it there.

I agree. I mean, Chuck even had it in the bar. Surely (ha ha) that means he put it in Sam's pocket.

[madebyme-x.livejournal.com]

I really enjoyed it. The in jokes, the boys (Dean gulping down that fog so he can die with Sam, Sam infected and worrying that Dean will chose Amara over him!), the singing, the creepy beautiful fog on the mountains, and the scenes between Curtis and Rob were just perfect. I mean I actually enjoyed the Metatron scenes, which I don't think has ever happened before. And the emotions and complexities that Rob portrayed were wonderful; the boyish charm, the annoying ambivalence and then completely scary!!!

And the amulet!!! I'm not sure if Sam did have it the whole time, I thought Show was keeping us guessing where it's been after Chuck said "You'll never guess where's this thing has been the entire time'. I assumed he put it in Sam's pocket so they could see it glow and know he's back. But I'm open to ideas and suggestion, and I like that they've left that open for interpretation. Bring on the fic fandom!!!

I have no idea where we're heading; a big Chuck vs. Amara showdown and another apocalypse? The boys working with God, and working together to save the world? Or maybe they're all lose, and Amara will take over, shove God in the Empty, and it'll all be about the boys stopping her. No idea, and no spoilers! I was slightly spoiled for this episode, which was a shame, but I'd like to get to the end of the season without knowing anything so I'm tightening up my internet browsing I think!

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

And the emotions and complexities that Rob portrayed were wonderful; the boyish charm, the annoying ambivalence and then completely scary!!!

Oooh, Chuck getting angry. That was fantastic!

Or maybe they're all lose, and Amara will take over, shove God in the Empty, and it'll all be about the boys stopping her.

Now there's an interesting proposition...

No idea, and no spoilers! I was slightly spoiled for this episode, which was a shame, but I'd like to get to the end of the season without knowing anything so I'm tightening up my internet browsing I think!

I was lightly spoiled. I knew Chuck was going to be in this episode, and I'd read that the script for 11.20 allegedly made Jensen cry. And that is WAY TOO MUCH spoiling for my taste. I'm completely unspoiled for the remaining episodes. I dipped a toe into Tumblr this morning and managed to stay pure, but that was stupid and I'm going to have to keep out of it. And freaking Yahoo keeps trying to throw a story about the next episode at me. (True story... we went out Wednesday late and got home late. Very late. Way past my bedtime. And I told The Husband "I've got to watch SPN and I don't want you to give me any grief about it, because if I don't watch it, I'll have to stay off the internet and off Twitter," and he laughed at me.)

[madebyme-x.livejournal.com]

I know exactly what you mean!!! It's just too hard to stay completely away from everything, but then eventually I always end up seeing a spoiler, and I've only got myself to blame. I think LJ is safe, my flisties are great with spoiler warnings, but I'm going to have to step away from some pages and groups that I often look at. I only really look at twitter pages of the cast, but after Chuck's return spoiler, I'm staying away from there too.

It's going to be hard, but we can do it!!!!

[cuddyclothes.livejournal.com]

I loved this episode. I am alone in my Metraton love, I know that. I've always loved the squirmy little bastard, and turning him into mankind's advocate was perfect. As always, great review and lots of SAAAAAAAMMM!

Someone on Twitter remarked how much they love it when Dean cries out, "SAAAAM!" I pointed that Sam always says, "Dean! DEAN!"

Technical note: when Chuck was Angry God, the VFX team smoothed his face, no lines, no wrinkles. Which is made it even farther from the Chuck we know and love. And thee was certainly major fanservice when Chuck picked up his guitar and sang.

Wasn't the Samulet in Sam's drawer in one of the episodes? It was off to one side, but a lot of people enlarged screenshots. I think Chuck put it in his pocket, though.

The two major problems I had with the episode REALLY chap my ass because they didn't even need to be there.

Chuck as God: the real Chuck is in Heaven since another prophet only appears when the last one dies. However, God kept the meatsuit. Easy-peasy and it doesn't wreck half the show's basic Canon.

Metatron as God: What I loved in S9 was Metratron was such a turd, but when he was talking about God, "do you know much pancake makeup and lighting he had to have to work a rope line?" (I.E. red carpet reference) Metatron had real reasons to want to be God, besides being a power-crazed weasel. Then to have him chalk it up to wanting God's attention...GRRR. Again, it might have been even more powerful if Metatron said, "Because I could do a better job than you have!"

[caranfindel.livejournal.com]

I loved this episode.

I wondered if you would!

Technical note: when Chuck was Angry God, the VFX team smoothed his face, no lines, no wrinkles.

Hmmm. I wonder why? Must rewatch.

Wasn't the Samulet in Sam's drawer in one of the episodes? It was off to one side, but a lot of people enlarged screenshots. I think Chuck put it in his pocket, though.

Sam had the fake Samulet in his memory box. The one the girls gave Dean during Fan Fiction.


Chuck as God: the real Chuck is in Heaven since another prophet only appears when the last one dies. However, God kept the meatsuit. Easy-peasy and it doesn't wreck half the show's basic Canon.

I like it. I've seen a theory before that Chuck became God's vessel during Swan Song. Because Chuck is anxious as hell (heh) when he's waiting for the end, and it just doesn't seem like the way God would be acting.

Metatron as God: What I loved in S9 was Metratron was such a turd, but when he was talking about God, "do you know much pancake makeup and lighting he had to have to work a rope line?" (I.E. red carpet reference) Metatron had real reasons to want to be God, besides being a power-crazed weasel. Then to have him chalk it up to wanting God's attention...GRRR. Again, it might have been even more powerful if Metatron said, "Because I could do a better job than you have!"

Of course, if Metatron wanted to suck up to God, he would certainly say something like "because I wanted your attention, oh beloved father..."